The Fifty Years War: Israel and the Arabs
The Fifty Years War: Israel and the Arabs
| 15 March 1998 (USA)
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    SpuffyWeb Sadly Over-hyped
    Solidrariol Am I Missing Something?
    RipDelight This is a tender, generous movie that likes its characters and presents them as real people, full of flaws and strengths.
    Roxie The thing I enjoyed most about the film is the fact that it doesn't shy away from being a super-sized-cliche;
    andrew-lyall The UK version, narrated by Tim Piggott-Smith, has subtitles, rather than the dubbed USA version. At one point Prime Minister Shamir of Israel is asked why he authorized the assassination of Abu Nidal, who had organized the first Intefada - they threw stones, did not use guns or grenades, etc. Shamir, speaking in Hebrew, says that Nidal was an enemy of Isreal and adds that "It was no big deal". This is translated in the UK subtitle version. The US dubbed version omits this last comment in the soundtrack. It is a matter of personal preference, but I would prefer to know actually what was said, rather than what appears to be a sanitized version and one which also appears to have some bias towards the Isreali position. The UK version does not seem to be currently available on DVD.
    del_lover In fact I wrote my comments on the philosophy and mankind. Sorry for my lack of knowledge in English!The first 5 minutes of the movie will provide you with sufficient information why the war started.In my opinion we, the Europeans really need to excuse to both the Israeli and Arab people for the crisis that we created. Let this never ever happen again. If you watched the movie, you know what I do talk about - WWII, Nazi's push the Israeli, Israeli go to Palestina, British forces leave Palestina but they do not leave it to the Palestinians. And why Europeans created the crisis? In my personal view (with which you may disagree with of course), the UN preferred to have the Israeli in an Arab country, rather than on it is own territory. It means green light for Israel as a country.The movie contains great political lessons.The movie describes to a very good and quite balanced extent the view of Israel and Palestina. Palestinians talk a bit less, but this is not making any trouble. It is more of a trouble that too few opinions from regular people are recorded. But believe me you got quite a lot of speeches from so many countries.After watching the first 10 mins, if you are close to ethnic problems you will know for sure, that with Israeli having a country, and the Palestinians not, it is impossible for the Palestinians to live well. But well I, need to know if, how and when the Israeli were opresing the Palestinians. For example but not giving them jobs if there is a Israeli applicant... I don't want to go against a nation, but the Israeli are famous for their nationalism. It is hard when you have no job, no money, no food for your children. However it doesn't means you have to go to a war.I was most impressed by a king. A man that in the end of his life was enlightened and knew what is life about, and how to live it. We urgently need people like him.Watch it! One of the great politicians, which seems to have changed his opinions during the years, is lying us. It is not defending of his position, he is lying definitely. And he looks so damn polite.Homework: Was Israel going to give anything to Palestina if there was no terror?Do you believe it is possible for the US president to decide emotionally and on his own, weather or not there will be Israel?Why we do start loosing if we always need a better score (diorF)? - What do we live for and what kind of people we should be? - Are there really big gifts in politics, i.e. ChechoSlovakia to help Israel? Ohwell, at least I do believe there should be gifts in this World. I won't comment if that is the case. - Don't you see Saddam as a victim in the Israeli-Iraq conflict, rather than the Gulf? The man just wanted to be the greatest Arab leader, after the Egyptian's had their rip. And he just bombarded the people... When we have problems to solve, we put aside the currently non resolvable and we...?In the end if some people have their representative, even if he is a terrorist, you must negotiate with him. Killing Arafat with poison is not a move in the correct direction if performed by the Israeli. It is quite possible for the people to re-elect a man with similar views. If not, they will keep their anger, until a next revolt. OK... i will double say my mind the previous paragraph. Do you remember what the Egyptian president said: "I can't do that. If I do that, my people will not agree." (not exact quotes around!). The same for PLO - "We can't negotiate, after Israel decided to take so much prisoners". It is the same for Israel too - watch the news. OK... i will triple say it, and it is quite important to know that: killing political leaders hardly lead to switches in the political view of the masses (infact the killed is treated like an immortal). It makes no sense of killing. Don't kill people. Don't kill.Did Arafat used some of the historical situations to gain political power disregarding the needs of the Palestinians? For example preventing peace? It is a hard question and I don't know the facts. Keep in mind that every peace of info you have on the problem could be inaccurate.Tips for the next elections in your school (kidding): -Don't choose a hard-liner.
    ramzoozi This documentary is by far, the best one i have ever seen, you get to hear first hand story lines from the leaders of the nations (at the time) themselves, USA presidents, Israely PM, Palestinian leaders, Syrian military leaders, etc.Its really worth watching, especially that we would want to know the true story behind all the news we have been hearing about them for as long as we can remember!it also covers in depth, the true happenings of the Oslo agreement, and how it went sour..not only that, but you get to see how the sensitivity between the two peoples has grown over the past 50 years alone.
    outsider-2 This was a complete eye-opener for me - and I'd considered myself pretty familiar with the politics and history of the region since I lived there for a significant period of time. To hear about these events from the very mouths of the people who were there, its just the most fascinating thing ever. Absolutely mandatory viewing.
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